Please
note..this is
the ARCHIVE page for 2015.
the info on this page is accurate for 2015
only.
Im keeping a "snapshot" of each year, so we
can go
back
and see where things were in years past.
for the current NY Alco list, click here.
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..400 | Alco RS1 | .11/1950 | .77854 | Kingston | OOS, but being returned
to
service |
.ex Catskill 2361, ex Alter Scrap 2361, ex SOO 2361, nee WC 2361 | |
..401 |
.Alco RS1 | .03/10/1950 | .77070 | .Mount
Tremper |
.operating | .ex-Green Mountain 401, GM&O 1055, nee IT 1056/756 | .. |
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Alco S1 | .1946 | .. | Mount Tremper | operating | ex
- SIRT 407, nee
LIRR 407 |
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1835 | MLW RS18u | 1958 | 82451 | Utica | operating | ex CP 1835, nee CP 8780 |
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1845 |
MLW RS18u |
1957 |
81622 |
Utica | operating | ex CP 1845, nee CP 8747 |
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8223 | Alco RS3 | 8/1950 | 78080 | Thendara | operating | (Amtrak 100)(CR 5274)(PC 5223)(NYC 5223/8223) | .. |
7370 | Alco S1 | Rome | operating | ex USAF | .. |
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1012 | Alco S4 | Arkville | OOS,
needs
new
wheels. |
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5106 | Alco S4 | Arkville | operating | Chesapeake & Ohio 5106 | .. | ||
5017 | Alco RS-36 | Arkville | operating | ex D&H 5017 | .. |
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..605 | .Alco RS3 | .11/1950 | . | .Greenwich | .operating | .ex VTR # 605, St.J&LC # 250, nee L&HR #10 | .. |
..4116 | .Alco RS3 | .9/1952 | .80316 | .Greenwich | .operating | .ex Greenwich and Johnsonville - nee D&H 4116 | .. |
Saratoga & North Creek Railway - Official Page
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..3051 | .MLW S4 | . | . | .Cooperstown | .operating | . CN 8181 | .. |
..3052 | .MLW S7 | . | . | .Cooperstown | .operating | .CN 8223 | .. |
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..City of Albany D&H 4126..................... | .Alco RS3...... | . | . | .Colonie yard | stored unservicable | Ex
Albany
Port RR #2 nee D&H 4126 |
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..City of Albany D&H 3011 | Alco S2. | . | . | .Colonie yard | stored unservicable | Ex
Albany
Port
RR, nee D&H 3011 |
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Owner? LIRR 417 | Alco S1 | . | . | Colonie yard | stored unservicable | Ex LIRR 417 |
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.Town of Port Henry | .MLW RS18............ | .07-1958 | .82475 | .Port Henry | .display - as LC&M 20 | Ex CP 1800 | |
..GN 229 | .Alco RS3............ | . | . | .Schenectady | .display | . |
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.Luvata Buffalo, Inc. .70 Sayre St, Buffalo. |
.Alco S4 | .8/1951 | .78824 | .(Formerly
Outokumpu
American Brass) NE Buffalo |
.operating | .nee SB 92 | ..
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.RHXS 27 -Members of CNY NRHS | .MLW M420TR | . 4/1972 | .M6051-02 | .Utica. | .OOS | .ex RS 27, exx Alcan 27 | .. |
..Adirondack 25 | .Alco RSC2 | . | . | .Utica, | .Display | .Seaboard Air Line 1531 | .. |
..Huntley Plant, SB64 | .Alco S2 | . | . | .at the former Niagara Mohawk Plant in Tonawanda, NY (now "Huntley") | .?? | .(SB 64)(S&H 63)(RF&P 65) | .. |
LIRR 1556 | Alco RS3 | . | . | RR Museum of Long Island - Riverhead | undergoing cosmetic restoration | . | .. |
Medina RR museum | Alco S1 | .12/1949 | .77116 | Niagara Falls | Stored | ex- Relco 718, nee L&N 59 |
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Langford RR 90 | Alco S2 | . | . | Langford | Privately owned, not operating. |
nee SB 90 |
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Alstom 1 | Alco S6 | 11/1956 | 82294 | Hornell | operating | Ex Alstom 319, exx. SB 43 | . |
"NYC"
8625 |
Alco S1 | .10/1946
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Manhattan | Display, See *note 4 |
Ex NYCH 25 (BEDT
25) ( EL 307)(nee Erie # 307) |
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.NYSEG #8 | Alco S2 | . | . | Milliken Station, Ludlowville | ?? | Ex-LIRR #453 *note 1 | . |
Tonawanda Coke
#1976 see link. |
Alco S3 | 3/1953 | 80290 | Tonawanda Coke
Plant |
OOS | nee Maine Central 961. to Tonawanda Coke No. 1976 (was in Tonawanda by 1978) |
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JRWX 111 (Suez power plant) |
Alco S4 |
6/1950 | 78014 | Solvay | operating. | currently
JRWX 111 rebuilt with cummins engine, 2010. Ex - Laurinburg & Southern 111 Ex - Carolina Power & Light nee South Buffalo 91 |
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*note 1
NYSEG #8 has
been rebuilt with a non-Alco engine.
* note 2
last
M630
made for CP Rail
This unit
has
been incorrectly labeled as "WNYP 631" (LAL) over the last
few years,
but
as of the end of 2006,
the unit is
still
not officially a LAL unit..it was lettered as "SIXX 73" in
late 2006.
* note 3
Full
heritage
data for GVT 2035:
Currently
GVT
2035, on the Falls Road in Lockport, NY
ex DL 212 -
Ex-Tishomingo
212, exx-Delaware Valley 212, exxx-East Tennessee/ET&WNC
212,
exxxx-Maryland
& Delaware 40, exxxxx-Conrail/PC 2035,
original New
York Central 8035.
* note 4
"NYC" 8625 -
Ex NYCH 25 (BEDT 25) (
EL
307) (nee Erie # 307)
This locomotive, the former New York Cross Harbor No. 25, is
now on
display at "Riverside Park South"
on the west side of Manhattan, along the Hudson shore. The
locomotive
was moved there in 2006.
the unit has been painted in rather poorly done pseudo-New
York Central
scheme, and has part of a cab wall removed, replaced by
plexiglass,
to view the restored cab interior. The unit never belonged to
the New
York Central.
* note 5
LIRR 3100, Alco FA2, S/N 78607,
1/51
ex WM 304
Its still owned by LIRR. It was
made
into a powerpack,
then had its cab section cut off
and
made into a HEP car.
Its currently being rebuilt to a
mobile
generator car.
(because its cab is gone, I dont
consider
this a complete surviving loco..its more in the "slug"
class..-SL)
* note 6
Champion
International #404
Alco RS1
Ex-St. Regis Paper #404, Exx
Rutland #404
was reported to be in Deferiet,
NY
confirmed scrapped at Naparano.
* note 7
RRPX
2338, a
MLW M636, was the last M636 on the CN roster.
She was retired by CN by 1996, but technically remained on
the CN
roster until 2010!
When she was finally sold to RRPX, and headed over to Olean
NY to begin
a second career with they WNYP.
2338 first arrived in Olean in November 2010.
Update- July 2011 - 2338 has not yet returned to service,
and is listed
as "Long
Term
OOS, No current plans for restoration"
* note 8
Concerning the
heritage,
and the previous numbers, of LAL C424's Number 421, 422,
423, and 424.
There has been some confusion about the previous numbers of
these four
units, and it's all Guilfords fault! ;)
Guilford renumbured two of the units into Springfied
Terminal 70-series
numbers, and two others got ST numbers "on paper only"..
Then they were given D&H numbers again, then they got a
second (and
final) set of Guilford numbers! This time being
lettered for Maine Central instead of Springfield
Terminal..The MEC
numbers went back to the D&H 450 series,
but not in the same sequence as before! The MEC numbers are
the numbers
the units wore when they came to the LAL in 1996.
LAL 421 was only 452.
LAL 422 was 451 and 455.
LAL 423 was only 454.
LAL 424 was 450 and 451.
Also, LAL 421 and 423
recieved Springfield Terminal numbers 71 and 73 *on paper
only*..They
never phyically wore those numbers.
So when they "went back" to the D&H, they were still
wearing their
original numbers.
However the other two
units, B&H 422 and LAL 424, *did* in fact wear ST
numbers 74 and
70, so when they recieved their MEC
numbers, they got different numbers than the original
D&H numbers..
Also, there has been
some conflicting information on the ST numbers some of the
units wore
"on paper only"..
Historical data, from the Leatherstocking chapter NRHS, from
the 1987
timeframe (the time the C424's were given the ST numbers)
supports the idea that the ST numbers were assigned in
chronological
order..see the link below for the discussion on the forum.
This is believed to be the correct sequence:
D&H
451
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ST
70
-
(Received
Guilford
paint, and lettered as ST 70)
D&H 452 - ST 71 - (Was ST 71 on paper only.)
D&H 453 - ST 72 - (Was ST 72 on paper
only.)
D&H
454
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ST
73
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(Was ST 73 on paper only.)
D&H
455
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ST
74
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(Received Guilford
paint, and lettered as ST 74)
D&H
456
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ST
75
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(Received Guilford
paint, and lettered as ST 75)
This
was
happening
in
1987..two
years
later,
in
1989, ex-B&M EMD GP9's
got numbers ST 71 and ST 72.
This has all led to a
TON of incorrect information on the internet about these
units! wrong
numbers are posted all over.
Based on reliable research, I believe the number sequence on
this page
is now correct.
See this thread for more information:
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=113&t=151978&p=1207297#p1207297
Data for the four LAL units, believed to be
correct as of 8/22/2013:
LAL 421 | Alco C424m | 1963 | 3367-3
84735 |
Falconer | operating | ex. (GTI/MEC 452) (D&H 452) (ST 71*) (D&H 452) (CR 2495) (nee RDG 5206) |
B&H 422 | Alco C424m | 1963 | 3358-14
84556 |
Cohocton | operating | ex. (GTI/MEC 451) (D&H 74) . (ST 74) .(D&H 455) (CR 2488) (nee EL 2414) |
LAL 423 | Alco C424m | 1963 | 3358-7
84549 |
Cohocton | operating | ex. (GTI/MEC 454) (D&H 454) (ST 73*) (D&H 454) (CR 2481) (nee EL 2407) |
LAL 424 | Alco C424m | 1963 | 3358-1
84543 |
Lakeville | operating | ex. (GTI/MEC 450) (D&H 70) ..(ST 70)...(D&H 451) (CR 2475) (nee EL 2401) |
The Alco totals!
118
total Alcos in NY state!
54
operating.
breakdown by model
model | total | operating |
S1 electric | 1 | .. |
T3a electric | 1 | .. |
0-6-0 | 2 | .. |
2-8-0 | 2 | 1 |
0-4-0T | 4 | .. |
HH660 | 1 | |
S1 | 10 | 3 |
S2 | 13 | 2 |
S3 | 1 | .. |
S4 | 10 | 6 |
S6 | 2 | 1. |
RS1 | 4 | 2 |
RS2 | .. | .. |
RS3 | 8 | 3 |
RS3m | 2 | 1 |
RSC2 | 1 | ... |
FA2 | 1 | ... |
FPA2u | 1 | ... |
FPA-4 | 1 | ... |
RS11 | 4 | 4 |
RS32 | 1 | 1 |
RS36 | 4 | 2 |
C415 | 1 | . |
C420 | 2 | 1 |
C424 | 2 | 2 |
C424m | 7 | 6. |
C425 | 5 | 5 |
C430 | 4 | 2 |
MLW C630m | 1 | 1. |
MLW S4 | 1 | 1 |
MLW S7 | 1 | 1. |
MLW C425u | 2 | 2 |
MLW RS18 | 7 | 1. |
M420W | 1 | 1. |
M420TR | 1 | .. |
M630 | 1 | |
M636 | 8 | 3 |
acronym
key
the New York
state alcos have a combined heritage of all the following
railroads:
stored - AR- "awaiting repairs", planned return to service.
AS
-
Allegheny
Southern
Railroad
B&H
-
Bath
&
Hammondsport
B&O
-
Baltimore
&
Ohio
BCLR
-
Bay
Colony
BCRR
-
Buffalo
Creek
BN
-
Burlington
Northern
BRC
-
Belt
Railway
of
Chicago
C&WI
-
Chicago
&
Western
Indiana
CBNS - Cape Breton & Central Nova Scotia
CCCL
- Connecticut Central Railroad
CN
-
Canadian
National
CR
-
Conrail
CP
-
Canadian
Pacific
CV
-
Central
Vermont
D&H
-
Delaware
&
Hudson
DL
-
Delaware-Lackawanna
(not to be confused with
the
the DL&W, Delaware, Lackawanna & Western. totally
different
railroad!)
DLWR
-
Depew
Lancaster
&
Western
Despatch
-
Despatch
shops
of
the
NYC,
East
Rochester,
NY.
DWP
-
Duluth
Winnipeg
and
Pacific
EL
-
Erie
Lackawanna
EK
-
Eastman
Kodak
Co.
ESHR
-
Eastern
Shore
Railroad,
Maryland
&
Virginia
FRRR
-
Falls
Road
G&W
-
Genesee
&
Wyoming
GBW
-
Green
Bay
&
Western
GTI
-
Guilford
IBCX
-
Indiana
Box
Corp.
IHRC
-
Indiana
HI-Rail
Corp.
IT
-
Illinois
Terminal
JRWX
-
Johnson
Rail
Services
L&N
-
Louisville
&
Nashville
LAL
-
Livonia,
Avon
&
Lakeville
LC&M
-
Lake
Champlain
&
Moria
LEF&C
-
Lake
Erie
Franklin
&
Clarion
LIRR
-
Long
Island
LV
-
Lehigh
Valley
LVAL
-
Lackawanna
Valley
Railroad
LS&I
-
Lake
Superior
&
Ishpeming
M&E
-
Morristown
&
Erie
MC
-
Mass
Central
MCER
-
Mass
Central
MDDE
-
Maryland
&
Delaware
MEC
-
Maine
Central
MHWA
-
Mohawk
Adirondack
&
Northern
MK
-
Morrison
Knudson
NRHS
-
National
Railroad
Historical
Society
N&W
-
Norfolk
&
Western
NH
-
New
Haven
NKP
-
Nickel
Plate
NRHS
-
National
Railway
Historical
Society
NYC
-
New
York
Central
NYCH
-
New
York
Cross
Harbor
NYSW
-
Susquehanna
ONCT
-
Ontario
Central
P&LE
-
Pittsburgh
&
Lake
Erie
PC
-
Penn
Central
PRR
-
Pennsylvania
Railroad
PVRX
-
James
Hager
Jr.
Inc.
/
Pook
Valley
Rail
QGRY
-
Quebec
Gatineau
Railway
RDG
-
Reading
RSA
-
RSA
Leasing.
Sodus,
New
York
RS
-
Roberval
&
Saguenay
SB
-
South
Buffalo
Railway
SIR
-
Staten
Island
Railway
SIRT
- Staten Island Railway
SGLR
-
Seminole
Gulf
Railway
SP
-
Southern
Pacific
SP&S
-
Spokane,
Portland
&
Seattle
ST
-
Springfield
Terminal
(Guilford)
USAF
-
United
States
Air
Force
WC
-
Wisconsin
Central.
W&O
-
Wheeling
&
Ohio
W&W
-
Winchester
&
Western
WMRYHS
-
Western
Maryland
Railroad
Hisorical
Society
WM
-
Western
Maryland
Railroad
WNYRHS
-
Western
New
York
Railway
Historical
Society
WNYP
-
Western
New
York
&
Pennsylvania
WTR
-
Wyandotte
Terminal
Railroad
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February
16,
2005.
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please
email
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with
any
comments,
corrections,
changes
or
updates!
:)
this
is
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ongoing
project.
this
database
was
created
and
maintained
with
much
help from the members of the
New
York
Forum and ALCO
forum at Railroad.net
thank
you!
and
several
other
railfan
forums
at
both
railroad.net
and railfan.net
also,
much
of
the
original
LAL
roster
data
is
from
The
Greater
Rochester Railfan Page.
thanks
Les!
and
thank
you
Henry
for
My
New
York Alco Photos, hosted by railfan.net
Last updated January 20, 2015
Please
note..this is
the ARCHIVE page for 2015.
the info on this page is accurate for 2015
only.
Im keeping a "snapshot" of each year, so we
can go
back
and see where things were in years past.
for the current NY Alco list, click here.
Copyright 2005-2015 - material on this website may not be used without permission